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« on: July 28, 2008, 07:03:27 am »

 Sad I feel bad most of the time

I went to a Professional EFT Practitioner a few months ago, cost me $150 for that one session, and the results were that i felt really relaxed and relieved, like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders....for about a week or so. So i went home, and proceeded to do eft about 3x for 15-30 mins a week, saw no/little results.....and dropped it to 2x, then 1x a week nothing has changed in my life as I can see it.

The practitioner was really good about directing the whole thing, making me assign values to those feelings before and after doing the eft....and it kinda felt like i was EXPECTED to have a reduction in those negative feelings, which happened.

At home.....nothing changes. Those deep negative feelings dont come up like they did with the eft practitioner. Ive become discouraged with eft and stopped doing it

Im at my whits end with some of the reoccurring patterns in my life......sometimes tapping gets rid of the bad feeling in the moment, but returns next time i face the same problem/challenge

I feel very numb, blurred, sometimes depressed, hopeless, and kinda trapped by a mental glass ceiling of my own creation.
I dont feel good about myself, so i push people away who want to connect with me....and dont have the social life i want
I dont feel good, so i dont sell myself during interviews and therfore dont have a good full time job
I dont have the money to spend, so i dont go out and relax and have fun at a bar/club, party, movie, dinner with friends, etc etc

I guess i need some help in re-evaluating how to do eft, or specifically what things i should focus on and which aspects are the most important.
Do i do most recent events first and work my way back? or work with childhood instances of that feeling/problem and work my way to the present?

I need your help to create some change. Thanks
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2008, 04:14:48 pm »

Hi-
I don't have much time this morning to write but I do want to say that yes, for me EFT has worked remarkably well and has helped me become a much happier and more relaxed person.  I also made a lot of changes in diet, too, though so that has definitely played a part as well.  However, those changes were much easier to make with EFT to defuse my "need" for grains, so you see it's all interconnected. 

A lot of times you can tap away things temporarily and then they come back again.  In my personal experience this means that I haven't  found the root cause of the distress.  For example: for me Irritable Bowel Syndrome was connected not only to eating grains (can't do that any more!) but just not eating grains was enough to stop my symptoms, I had to tap through some very specific instances of anger before those symptoms really let up.  In fact, now I know I have anger building up in me if my digestion goes wonky so I will take a look at what's going on in my life, find the anger and then deal with it and then the symptoms go away.

So I'd say the practitioner got you started in the right direction but maybe didn't teach you quite enough to keep on easily on your own.  You could try picking any one of the more specific sentences in your post here, for example:

Even though I feel very numb I love and accept and forgive myself unconditionally.
Even though I feel blurred...
Even though sometimes I feel depressed...
Even though I feel trapped by this mental glass ceiling of my own creation...

Pick one of these and tap on it.  See what "tail enders" come up for you.  These are likely to lead you into yourself to find the root cause of your emotions or what is keeping you from feeling your emotions.  Numbness is a very common coping mechanism to having so much fear or anger that if you felt it, some or all, you might just explode into a million tiny bits- or at least that's the fear.  This can come from one or two big experiences or a life-time's worth of petty incidents that separately didn't mean much but that accumulating over time have turned into a huge blockage. 

Check out Magnus' videos at Tapping.com and be really persistent with at least one of them, preferably more.  I suggest the forgiveness one or any one of them that really hits a nerve for you or the one that you immediately react negatively to.  Also go to the Gary Craig archive and start reading the case histories.  You can search them for specific things or just start reading and either way you will start to see how tapping and phrasing can work in a large number of circumstances.  You can tap along with all the case histories (one woman did this and wrote about how it changed her life) or just tap along on the ones that really connect for you.  And of course you can read through these posts here.  There is a ton of good information here and a lot of very supportive and experienced folks to connect with. 

Finally, it may be that while most of you is desperate for change and really wants to change and can't wait for change, a part of you is not willing to go along.  You can tap on this:

Even though part of me really doesn't want to change...
Even though part of me loves being depressed and numb and blurry...
Even though part of me wants to feel bad...

It's a very common part of working through problems, dealing with the part of us that is so threatened by change that it will hang on to every bad thing that comes along to prevent any change from happening.  Don't beat yourself up over it, just tap on it and accept it. 

I hope anything I've written here helps a little.  Do keep us posted on what happens.  What may seem like failure may be the key to achieving success- and since you're feeling so much resistance I would bet you're going in the right direction and just haven't found that key just yet. 

Good luck!

Namaste.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2008, 07:46:32 pm »

You need to replace what you are tapping on with new empowering emotions and beliefs.
Try Tat, the Work of byron katie and other techniques..
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2008, 02:58:11 pm »

You need to replace what you are tapping on with new empowering emotions and beliefs.
Try Tat, the Work of byron katie and other techniques..

HAMR for installing beliefs. Also, using the Sedona method of releasing, combined with the Release technique "tube visualization", while holding the TAT pose works great.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2008, 04:18:04 pm »

You haven't purchased Magnus' ebook, have you?  It will teach you how to communicate with your subconscious so that you can access stuck emotion and elicit your beliefs. 

Craig
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2008, 08:33:23 pm »

although magnus videos are quite perfect but i recommend robert smith's videos on youtube.they are also very helpful.search for healingmagic and you will find some 140 video clips.very informative.also try some reiki techniques just befor tapping sessions.but dont stop tapping.many times our problems becomes part of our personalitiy.we dont want to get rid of them.may be you are facing the same .consult your e.f.t expert regularly.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 08:38:16 am »

HI - yes tapping does work and is changing my life although not in a few minutes or even days miracle  - it is a process.I am still a beginner so am not an expert to advise but can share my own experiences.

Sometimes I have worked on a seemingly simple issue and have had to persist to get results. The first time I tapped for my jaw clenching habit (I couldnt get rid of that habit through willpower) I did feel some benefit - but then subsequent tapping over the next few days only seemed to make it stronger and I more or less gave up. But then one day I decided to tap again and tapped a long time on the chin point and it finally went permanently. Obviously this is a different issue to yours but it does go to show the value of persistance!!

Also I dont know what you are tapping on but maybe you have to change your approach. I dont know why but tapping on past childhood mini traumas has given me a more lasting of a feeling of inner peace than tapping on present day stuff. So that is another approach to try (read personal peace procedure in the EFT manual).I read another case like that on the Emofree newsletter which is why I tried it.
Have you tried it also for smaller things (Like I tried it on the jaw clenching in the beginning) because that may give you some confidence to keep going. Have you tried tapping on any pains etc?

I have read a lot of cases where people persisted with EFT after not getting results for some time and then finally found the way to make it work for them so do keep at it and experiment with different ways - research information about different ways to use it and also go again to your therapist who it seems helped some if you can afford it.

Good Luck -  think sooner or later it will work for everyone because we all have energy systems and pressure points and minds so why not!!!
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 11:26:32 pm »

I have to say, that I have used a lot of different approaches, but EFT has definitely made a difference in my life.

After a long recovery from a difficult surgery, with lots of unnecessary pain, I have discovered that EFT is a useful therapy to erase anxiety and fear so closely linked to pain, and thereby erase the pain itself.

All you have to lose by giving it a go is a few moments of your time, and you have a world of relief to gain.  Why not?

Thank you, Magnus, for this site, which contains information that has helped me so many times. 

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2008, 12:39:20 pm »

Yes, it works, but as I use to say to everyone that's listening; EFT is like underwear - they're only useful if you use them...

Now, you say that it felt good in the beginning and then the feeling faded. I don't know about the rest of you, but to me this sounds as if you have Psychological Reversal, as somebody above also described. Psychological Reversal is not un-common and will stop any attempt at healing in it's tracks. It is as if the subconscious mind doesn't want to cooperate for some reason. When the conscious You want one thing, and your subconscious mind wants something else, they tend to trap one another with virtually notning happening. No healing of any sort may take place, as EFT founder Gary Craig puts it. That's why the Basic Recipe comes with the set-up phrase. It usually takes care of PRs, but sometimes the PRs are more stubborn and need some extra attention. The subconscious mind is good at playing tricks on us, but it seems it cannot stand any tricks we play in return. Learning the tricks is the trick, so to speak.

The technique I find best for PR is one from a guy who invented his own stuff. This is on Gary Craig's Foundational dvd's, btw, so if it's good enough for Gary to present, I guess I shan't keep it from you Smiley

PR release: Thinking about the confusion and just self-talking about what's going on, tap counter-clockwise in a 10-15 cm wide circle around the breast bone (the protruding piece of bone under the collar bone and above the solar plexus). About 20 taps per circulation, quite quickly, for about 30 seconds. Do this every time a confusing topic comes to mind. Sometimes the tapping will only hold for a few seconds, minutes or hours, sometimes it holds for days and weeks. But the more one tap like this, the more the subconscious seems to "get it" that it doesn't stand a chance so it might as well do things Your way instead. And the recurring PR subsides. I often feel the release as a sigh or a an energy wave in the body.

I have PR with weight and two months ago, after realising how to address it, I started this PR release tapping and just started losing weight (12 kgs now!) without even bothering about it. Most of my attention is going into tapping for a wide array of physical ailments, pain etc that I suffer more from than the over-weight, but YES!!! it helps. Both mom and dad has started to lose weight as easily with this, and my spouse use it constantly for recurring feelings he wants to get rid of. I now dub it my "entry gate" into EFT, because anybody can do this very simple thing as it needs no set up phrases or certain "things" to say, you just go on with your usual self-talk while doing it. People tend to come back to me for more after I set them up with this technique first, and then they tend to listen more carefully for the more complex Basic Recipe.

Another thing that is likely a cause here (as I gather from your list of problems: I feel very numb, blurred, sometimes depressed, hopeless, and kinda trapped by a mental glass ceiling of my own creation) is that you may have overreactions to foodstuffs etc. Apparently wheat, sugar and industrially processed and refined foods are too fast and furious for us. If you have the inclination, it might be useful to look at things like High Fat Low Carb diets because many of the refined foods are in the Carb category. Getting rid of sugar, corn or wheat seems to have helped several people out of depression, blurred minds and the like. Just stopping eating sugar might be a hard thing to do, but as carbs tend to elicit the urge for more carbs, the HFLC diets will curb that urge naturally. That's my own experience anyway, supported by others who have changed their diet in the same way. Artificial sweeteners and MSG also give strange reactions in our bodies, so keep away from these as much as you can.
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2008, 05:04:22 am »

Wow, great post, Fruateo!  I've tried the circular tapping and immediately got a physical release from it and I plan on doing it a lot more and teaching it to my friends, too.  A question: how do you determine which way is counter-clockwise?

I second the stuff about diet big time.  I've eliminated grains (including rice) from my diet completely because of IBS-like symptoms and the results in my general health have been amazing.  I eat a lot of veggies (cooked and raw) and a fair amount of meat, quinoa for a "grain" (it's actually a grass seed) and a lot of good oils like organic coconut oil for cooking (or for topical application- great moisturizer!) and olive oil for cold stuff like salad dressings and butter as much as I want.  My last blood tests came back absolutely gorgeous and the nurse was very surprised (and a little annoyed) at me when I told her about my diet!  Smiley 

I also think anything synthetic, like the fake sweeteners and such, are just evil and I avoid them, too.  I have a number of great websites' urls to post here if anyone is interested in more about "alternative" diet information. 

Thanks for this very informative post. 

Namaste.
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2008, 10:11:13 am »

Thank you, Ferlie!

About the clock. Imagine carrying a clock on your chest for everyone to see. Tap counter clock-wise on it.

I too am in a weird process of eliminating things due to IBS-like symptoms. At an alternative clinic for quantum medicine (they use computers and different machines to read the frequencies of the body and what "guests" one is carrying around at the time) they found that I was over-reacting to carbohydrates. (A pity I can't afford the their whole treatment.) For this reason I started searching for low-carb diets last fall. It got a lot better with low-carb, but it didn't really go well until I eliminated all veggies and just had proteins and fat, which leads me in the direction of enzyme deficiency. Shortly after this I started a hormone treatment that makes me feel nauseous all the time. All old good food like fried eggs and bacon, meats, fish and creamy sauses makes my stomach turn, so I mainly live on fruit and juices at the time. Which is an odd thing, as fruit was one thing I used to eliminate before as "probably bad" when I experimented with food, trying to find some kind of pattern but sternly believing the diet specialists and obediently following their ideas trying to make them work for me.

Hopefully the hormone treatment will come to an end soon and I hope things go back to "normal" after that... But the stomach's fine, not hurting, no headaches, no cramps that sizzle through my body and no heartburns. Gee... I can't understand I could stand that pain for so many years. The lesson here has been not to believe what others are telling me is correct about myself, but starting to trust my own body and what is has to tell me. Experimenting is good, even necessary, and listening to other peoples own experiences. But to trust "experts" and their whims is now beyond me.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2008, 06:35:59 pm »

Hi, and thanks so much for the clarification of the clock- that's very helpful!

I think you're on the right track with the enzyme deficiency route for your digestion problems.  Here are a couple of websites that may help you in your research:

http://www.beyondveg.com/index.shtml

http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm

There are enzymes you can buy to help with digestion- I take them after every meal and they help me tremendously.  I would definitely try to figure out what's going on as living on fruits and juices is not a good thing for very long- we need to eat carbs, meats and oils!  I don't think fruits are bad necessarily but they are not enough for an omnivore like a human to live on. 

I'm glad you are getting good results from your treatments, though.  I have to agree with you about not trusting "experts" and such- I have never had much luck with them, except for a couple of naturopaths who basically saved my health and sanity years ago now when I thought I was going nuts and it turned out to be "just" candida.  Our bodies and other aspects of our selves know exactly what we need for our best health and it's just a question of learning to listen openly enough to be able to use the information! 

Namaste.
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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2008, 03:29:39 pm »

Well put and thanks for the links!

Gunslinger - I hope this stuff has made some kind of difference to you too. Please tell us how you feel about it and if there are more gaps to fill with info.
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